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Re: Medical Cannabis Treatments? - Myeloma

by TheBronx on Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:42 pm

MJ38 wrote:

I have had multiple myeloma for eleven years. At the time I was diagnosed at stage 3B, the average life expectancy was only about 18 months. I have been in complete remission for 11 years. I have used MJ almost all of that time, with a few breaks here and there. I started originally for appetite stimulation and nausea control. I truly believe I would not have survived without it.

When the news first stared hitting a few years back that MJ can have curative effects on some cancers, I was delighted.

It is truly a sin and an outright disgrace that most cancer patients cannot access MJ without fear of prosecution.

Wow, this awesome - did you do the stemcel thing?

TheBronx
Who do you know with myeloma?: Not much
When were you/they diagnosed?: 08 August 2013
Age at diagnosis: 53

Re: Medical Cannabis Treatments?

by keglaser on Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:07 pm

Hi summit - could you give us any more information on your husband's experience with RSO? I'm looking to try and it and would love any information. How is he doing now?

Summit wrote:My hubby ended up in hospital last April, renal failure. He looked and felt so bad that I thought we were losing him. He went on dialysis and had to start chemo to stop calcium running into blood which in fact damaged his kidneys.

I started him on oil still in hospital. Very slowly as it would keep him stoned after the smallest dose. During the two months his kidneys started to recover. His blood test showed that cancer numbers dropped from 400 to 30. I know this was not only chemo working. Hematologist was surprised (to say the least and just called him "lucky guy"). We refused further chemo after his first 4 cycles. We stayed on oil ever since.

After much stress this April, his numbers started climbing again. This is concerning. We are starting to increase the oil and probably will switch to different strain to see if it may be more effective."

keglaser

Re: Medical Cannabis Treatments?

by dee777 on Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:48 am

Thought this was an interesting study to share on cannabis and multiple myeloma:

MB Morelli et al, "The effects of cannabidiol and its synergism with bortezomib in multiple myeloma cell lines. A role for transient receptor potential vanilloid type-2," International Journal of Cancer, June 2014 (abstract).

Abstract:

Multiple myeloma (multiple myeloma) is a plasma cell (PC) malignancy characterised by the accumulation of a monoclonal PC population in the bone marrow (BM). Cannabidiol (CBD) is a non-psychoactive cannabinoid with antitumoural activities, and the transient receptor potential vanilloid type-2 (TRPV2) channel has been reported as a potential CBD receptor. TRPV2 activation by CBD decreases proliferation and increases susceptibility to drug-induced cell death in human cancer cells. However, no functional role has been ascribed to CBD and TRPV2 in multiple myeloma.

In this study, we identified the presence of heterogeneous CD138+TRPV2+ and CD138+TRPV2− PC populations in multiple myeloma patients, whereas only the CD138+ TRPV2− population was present in RPMI8226 and U266 multiple myeloma cell lines. Because bortezomib (BORT) is commonly used in multiple myeloma treatment, we investigated the effects of CBD and BORT in CD138+TRPV2− multiple myeloma cells and in multiple myeloma cell lines transfected with TRPV2 (CD138+TRPV2+).

These results showed that CBD by itself or in synergy with BORT strongly inhibited growth, arrested cell cycle progression and induced multiple myeloma cells death by regulating the ERK, AKT and NF-κB pathways with major effects in TRPV2+ cells.

These data provide a rationale for using CBD to increase the activity of proteasome inhibitors in multiple myeloma.

dee777

Re: Medical Cannabis Treatments?

by Mike F on Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:14 pm

That is a very interesting study. There are some specific strains of cannabis which are very high in cannabidiol concentration. If I were going to use marijuana, I would certainly look for one of those strains. Any decent dispensary will have the THC and cannabidiol levels for the different strains they sell.

Of course, that study is just an in vitro thing and whether the anti-myeloma effects would carry over in vivo is an open question. But still ....

Mike F
Name: Mike F
Who do you know with myeloma?: Me
When were you/they diagnosed?: May 18, 2012
Age at diagnosis: 53

Re: Medical Cannabis Treatments?

by Mike F on Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:16 pm

RockyRaccoon said:

Sorry to bring up such an old post, but for those of you researching "Rick Simpson Oil" to help cure multiple myeloma, do not - I repeat do not - make the oil with naphtha and isopropyl like Rick Simpson says to. Please use alcohol!

Rick Simpson claims the iso will not leave behind any harmful residue, but over a prolonged period of time it will! Educate yourself before you jump right in.

I would be interested in knowing where you got this information. If you use high purity isopropanol and then vaporize it off, it will not leave anything behind that any other alcohol will leave behind. Is it the slightly higher boiling point of isopropanol that is the concern?

Mike F
Name: Mike F
Who do you know with myeloma?: Me
When were you/they diagnosed?: May 18, 2012
Age at diagnosis: 53

Re: Medical Cannabis Treatments?

by Jonah on Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:58 am

Not that it matters a huge amount, but I thought I'd mention that the study dee777 mentioned in her posting earlier today was mentioned previously in this discussion thread. See this posting:

https://myelomabeacon.org/forum/medical-cannabis-treatments-t171-30.html#p14006

I guess I mention this mainly to reduce the likelihood that people come away from the posting thinking "Wow, there was that other study mentioned earlier about CBD having anti-myeloma properties, and now there's a new study as well. Where there's smoke (no pun intended!), there must be fire."

Jonah

Re: Medical Cannabis Treatments?

by dee777 on Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:10 pm

Hey, Jonah, thank you for pointing that out. Sorry for the repeat. But it is still an important study with great results, drug with side effects and secondary cancers, or, cannabis oil, with no side effects, unless you take too much and get a little high. LOL! Wouldn't it be great if oncologists suggested and offered it at least along with chemo?

dee777

Re: Medical Cannabis Treatments?

by Mike F on Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:50 pm

I may be off-base here, but I am guessing that oncologists won't be interested in CBD as a myeloma treatment unless it's proven to have beneficial effects when given to patients. The study only shows effects on the cells "in the test tube", so to speak. There are plenty of substances which meet that criterion but which have no effect on the disease when administered to patients.

I think we'll have to wait for more research before the doctors are on board.

Meanwhile, it seems like it couldn't hurt!

Mike F
Name: Mike F
Who do you know with myeloma?: Me
When were you/they diagnosed?: May 18, 2012
Age at diagnosis: 53

Re: Medical Cannabis Treatments?

by Kim and Chris on Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:45 pm

We are using RSO oil. It works no doubt about it. We have all the hospital tests and you can see the myeloma going down as he progresses with the oil. We also use it as a skin cream mixed with mango butter, and any pain stops like magic. If you use an anal suppository, you feel slightly tired but no more than that.

Compare the normal NHS route of morphine, and diazepam and my husband could not function AT ALL on them. Whilst using the RSO oil, he has got a distinction in his MA at Uni, which he could not have done on morphine etc.

Despite being told on numerous occasions that he had weeks to live in March 2014, I started him on a high RSO dose and now he takes about a match head a day along with his skin cream and he is healthy, generally pain free and happy.

We have seen and got to know loads of people with various cancers and all of them report that this works. Many have seen tumours shrinking, and they also believe that the RSO oil increases your bone density-all good news!

I would recommend making your own, use polish vodka to make it and grow organically (you get a lot more oil). Check your water is not a high PH, and if it is, get a water filter. Eat loads of greens. A glass of water with a bit of lemon daily and curcumin all help.

Good luck everyone. Big Love.x

Kim and Chris

Re: Medical Cannabis Treatments?

by Eric Hofacket on Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:08 pm

Kim,

Is RSO the only treatment you husband has been doing for myeloma ROS? Has he been using it in conjunction with anything else?

What was the morphine and diazepam being used for? If you have found that RSO could replace those drugs, that would seem to be a good thing to me.

Eric Hofacket
Name: Eric H
When were you/they diagnosed?: 01 April 2011
Age at diagnosis: 44

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