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Re: Unconventional methods treating multiple myeloma

by Nancy Shamanna on Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:24 pm

Thanks Dee for the compliment! I have been through a lot with the myeloma, especially in the first year of it, and hope that any experiences I have had with it, I could use to also help others. But, consider this, it is the Myeloma Beacon that is connecting people like us in this 'think tank'! So we are all lucky to have these online connections....I get a lot out of reading the Beacon too! Best wishes to you!

Nancy Shamanna
Name: Nancy Shamanna
Who do you know with myeloma?: Self and others too
When were you/they diagnosed?: July 2009

Re: Unconventional methods treating multiple myeloma

by dee777 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:13 pm

I just wanted to post my kidneys have actually been doing better! So I am still drug free! One more blood test on the 25th and we will make a decision whether to continue on.
So the diet and supplements is working! What I am doing is not like the Gerson Therapy, however, I do eat a plant base only diet.
I did research on the Gerson therapy and it does not work for all cancers or even for every one. Every one is different and have to adapt a diet that works for their body to heal.
Gerson will not change anything so it does not work for every one.

dee777

Re: Unconventional methods treating multiple myeloma

by Multibilly on Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:19 pm

dee777 wrote:
> I just wanted to post my kidneys have actually been doing better! So I am
> still drug free! One more blood test on the 25th and we will make a
> decision whether to continue on.
> So the diet and supplements is working!

Very happy to hear things are going better for you Dee777! I'd be curious just which supplements you are currently taking. I've been researching various supplements myself for SMM, and I'd be curious what you settled on so far.

Multibilly
Name: Multibilly
Who do you know with myeloma?: Me
When were you/they diagnosed?: Smoldering, Nov, 2012

Re: Unconventional methods treating multiple myeloma

by pimelea on Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:33 am

So glad I came across this Forum as I thought I was the only cancer sufferer on this earth that thought that conventional methods that defy logic are handed out with gay abandon by no doubt well meaning medicos! Well, having been diagnosed about six months ago with myeloma and being pretty pro active I started exploring the Cancer world for other solutions. After going through hundreds of websites (it's almost a full time job!!) I came across the nearest thing to a medical clinic, offering a possible cancer solution, that happens to be in my city. The treatment involves radiowaves and it's similar but not the same as Hyperthermia. Established by a very well known and competent physician some thirty years ago it promised no side effects. I underwent 2 lots of three week treatments and am awating results. Even if I may or may not have been successful (I am already on plan B) I spoke to lots of people at the clinic that had good results. So much out there that does not involve drugs that could be worth pursuing by medical science. Let us all hope that one day that will be the case.

pimelea

Re: Unconventional methods treating multiple myeloma

by Dave on Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:16 am

Hello all, I have enjoyed reading the positivity that flows from you all that take this unconventional approach to improving our health. We are in the minority, but we are showing great results can be achieved by cheap, readily available and effective methods too often frowned apon by the white coat brigade!

Just thought this is interesting. Whenever I have taken a break from chemo (cyclophosphamide, dexamethasone and Velcade) by blood tests are noticeably improved. As Dee wrote, the body wants to heal and let's be honest chemo attacks the immune system and our main defense system. Why poison our bodies with highly unsuccessful, toxic, expensive DRUGS that give horrendous side effects: bone brittleness, hair loss, bloating, nausea, dihorreah, insomnia, destroys bone marrow, destroys platelets, hemoglobin, white blood cells, toxic to liver and digestive system, stops the absorption of nutrients from food and DOES NOT CURE CANCER!!!!

The unfortunate facts are, I would say, is that the majority of people try conventional medicine (burn-radiation, cut-surgery, poison-chemo) in the first place and out of sheer desperation and lack of results, they try non drug therapies. In some cases this response is too late.

PS, when I was at the German clinic, I met a Greek Australian who was being treated for Lymphoma by his oncologist in Australia. He then went to Germany for hypothermia and guess what they found? He had Leukemia, NOT lymphoma - he was misdiagnosed in Australia and was given 4 types of chemo drugs for a cancer he didn't have and wasted 6 months of his time on a useless poison. So much for conventional medicine!!

Stay well folks!

Dave
Name: Dave
When were you/they diagnosed?: September 2012
Age at diagnosis: 38

Re: Unconventional methods treating multiple myeloma

by dee777 on Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:20 am

Dave, did you do the hypothermia and how did that work for you?

dee777

Re: Unconventional methods treating multiple myeloma

by dee777 on Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:28 am

I will share what I am doing after my next two blood draws to see where I am at. If I continue to improve it would be worth sharing. But I am doing what is working for me, every one is different and I really advise any one doing non convential to see a MD that is licensed and does naturalpath too. They do extra schooling for this and know more than I can tell.
I also have an oconologist that is doing my blood work and monitoring me so if I get worse I can start one of the drugs. I have done the registering paper work for Revelimid but am hoping to not have to use it.
In the mean time I am still home schooling my children, take care of the house and do some farm work, I did cut back a bit on that for now. But I feel fine and have no pain at all. My bones are not effected, no calcuim in my blood and I am still fairly strong. I walk about 20 mins or more a day too. But I still have the cancer and really have an extreme amount of tumours according to the protein level put out. But I will be watching the next two blood draws and hope to see some improvement in that. Will update later.
And no, I am not doing the Gerson Therapy.

dee777

Re: Unconventional methods treating multiple myeloma

by dee777 on Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:30 am

And another thing that helps, the only drug I have taken is 5 days of prednisone so far. So I am not having to repair damage from drugs, it does make a difference.

dee777

Re: Unconventional methods treating multiple myeloma

by Dave on Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:56 am

Hi Dee,

Yes I did go to Germany late in December for approx 10 days. It was a really good, healing experience. This clinic allows the patient and their carer to stay with them in their room for the duration of the stay.

The treatment consisted of intravenous vitamin B & C, blood ozone therapy, magnetic field therapy, local hypothermia and one course of extreme whole body hypothermia. There were also daily supplements to boost the immune system.

Thrown in was some massage, body conditioning to help with strength and posture and of course lots of organic juicing.

The doctors were very thorough, meeting with me daily to discuss how I was feeling and the program for the day.

I came back a different man. Clear eyes, less joint pain, more energy and positive blood results. Unfortunately I returned home and back on the chemo regime and it was very disheartening to observe my blood tests worsen since returning to the drugs. But- it set the tone for me to finally have the guts to say to my haemotoligist that I m having a break from chemo and to accelerate my taking of natural supplements and monitor my progress that way.

I would not hesitate returning to Germany in future.
Dave

Dave
Name: Dave
When were you/they diagnosed?: September 2012
Age at diagnosis: 38

Re: Unconventional methods treating multiple myeloma

by dee777 on Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:59 am

Dave, I have found it to take more guts to say yes to the drugs. I am doing better every day. I ran errands yesterday and felt fine. Everyone is complimenting they have never seen me look this good. I look younger. Today I am going to trim my 3 horses feet. I have no pain what so ever. I just don't have my energy back 100% yet. But I expect that to take awhile, considering I was just in the hospital 3 weeks ago getting a blood transfusion and dealing with failing kidneys.
My healing doctor said as I continue to improve down the road he will let me start eating our homegrown meat from my farm and some raw milk again. We raise all our own meat, grass fed beef, grass fed milk cows, turkey, chickens, hogs, and we garden and I can our own veggies.
But I have been advised to eat less meat in the future. Too much slows down digestion.
Right now no meat to keep every thing moving out fast.
It has been very hard for me to see my delicous raw milk and not able to drink it, making raw cheese and not able to eat it, fixing meals for the family with that delicious meat and can't eat it, ugh.
My thoughts on the chemo, it destroys the body, and it brings on secondary cancer. I have seen quite a few people with multiple myeloma die from that Luekemia that is a secondary cancer from chemo, not from multiple myeloma but the secondary cancer.
I find it VERY easy to say no to drugs. I wouldn't feel this good if I was currently on drugs.

dee777

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