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High ferritin - what does it mean?

by jet on Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:08 am

Hi all.

My ferritin has been lingering high for a while, but has now shot up to 790. What does it mean?

I'm currently on thalidomide / Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide) / dex for relapse.

All I know it that it has to do with iron stores :)

Is it cause by blood transfusions? I had 2 units a couple of weeks ago.

Thanks :)
Last edited by jet on Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:40 am, edited 1 time in total.

jet
Name: nzgirl
Who do you know with myeloma?: me
When were you/they diagnosed?: september 2013
Age at diagnosis: 55

Re: High ferritin - what does it mean?

by SandyR on Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:38 am

My ferritin level is also high (550). I asked my oncologist and he said nothing to worry about, but we will keep an eye on it. So I also would like to know an answer. I am not taking anything right now. I just relapsed after two years of complete remission (CR) which followed a stem cell transplant (SCT).

SandyR
Name: Sandy R
Who do you know with myeloma?: Myself
When were you/they diagnosed?: 8/1/2012
Age at diagnosis: 59

Re: High ferritin - what does it mean?

by Dr. Jason Valent on Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:13 pm

Yes, the blood transfusion could certainly be the cause for this.

Dr. Jason Valent
Name: Jason Valent, M.D.
Beacon Medical Advisor

Re: High ferritin - what does it mean?

by Jonah on Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:56 pm

Thanks for your answer, Dr. Valent. When Jet asked this question, I was wondering if two transfusions would be enough to raise her ferritin to the extent that she mentioned.

Sandy and Jet - From what I have heard and read, there is quite a bit of research showing that blood cancers like myeloma can raise ferritin levels. There also have been several studies involving myeloma patients that have showed that ferritin levels at specific points in time – like, at diagnosis, or after a stem cell transplant – are correlated with a patient's prognosis. So this sort of evidence suggests that ferritin levels can track, to some degree, changes in a patient's disease.

The problem, however, is that there are a lot of things that can cause someone's ferritin to be elevated. A good article I found on the subject explains that:

Raised serum ferritin can be caused by five main mechanisms: damage to ferritin-containing tissues, for example, the bone marrow and liver; inflammation or infection, because ferritin is an acute-phase protein; genetic iron-loading conditions; secondary iron-loading conditions, which are mainly due to blood transfusions but are also seen in African haemosiderosis due to the ingestion of large quantities of iron; and chronic anaemias caused by ineffective haematopoesis, for example, thalassaemias.

Source: "High serum ferritin," GP, Aug 31, 2007 (link to article)

One of the reasons in that list, which is relevant to Jet's situation, is blood transfusions. But the first two reasons, which include damage to the bone marrow and inflammation or infection, are things that can be directly and indirectly caused by multiple myeloma.

But inflammation and infections also can be caused by other things unrelated to how active a myeloma patient's disease is. Even simple things like how much alcohol you drink and your weight can have an impact on ferritin levels.

So, while ferritin levels can give some sense of whether a patient's myeloma is becoming more, or less, active, it's not a direct signal – like a patient's M-spike or free light chain levels – and it's also a noisy signal.

So doctors may watch ferritin levels in myeloma patients just to give them as complete a picture as possible about what's going on with their disease. But other measures, like the M-spike and FLC levels that I just mentioned, are more reliable reflections of a patient's disease state in most cases.

Sorry this went on for a bit. I hope it's helpful! :)

Jonah

Re: High ferritin - what does it mean?

by Jonah on Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:03 pm

Oh ... the quote in my previous posting mentions that ferritin is an "acute-phase protein." I admit that I had to look up what that meant. As usual, Wikipedia came to the rescue:

"Acute-phase proteins are a class of proteins whose plasma concentrations increase (positive acute-phase proteins) or decrease (negative acute-phase proteins) in response to inflammation. This response is called the acute-phase reaction (also called acute-phase response)."

Jonah

Re: High ferritin - what does it mean?

by SandyR on Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:10 pm

Thanks Dr. Valent and Jonah your answers are very helpful.

SandyR
Name: Sandy R
Who do you know with myeloma?: Myself
When were you/they diagnosed?: 8/1/2012
Age at diagnosis: 59

Re: High ferritin - what does it mean?

by jet on Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:12 pm

Thank you all for the help. At diagnosis, my ferritin was 140, which is within normal range, and I haven't had a stem cell transplant, so it looks like it might be the transfusion. I have had 4 over the last 2 years.

Thanks again :)

jet
Name: nzgirl
Who do you know with myeloma?: me
When were you/they diagnosed?: september 2013
Age at diagnosis: 55

Re: High ferritin - what does it mean?

by jet on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:25 pm

Hi all,

My ferritin levels are now at 1000. Is this considered 'very high'? (New Zealand normal range is 20-380.)

i haven't been able to find that answer on the Internet, not in connection with multiple myeloma.

My last monthly blood test showed my IgG had dropped to 23, but my lambda gone up to 3302 (at the hospital I was told "we don't know why this has happened"; this is not normal).

I have had 2 units of hemoglobin 3 or 4 times in 2015.

I came across this:

MH Miceli et al, "Iron overload is a major risk factor for severe infection after autologous stem cell transplantation: a study of 367 myeloma patients" , Bone Marrow Transplantation, March 2006 (full text of article)

Thanks in advance :)

jet
Name: nzgirl
Who do you know with myeloma?: me
When were you/they diagnosed?: september 2013
Age at diagnosis: 55

Re: High ferritin - what does it mean?

by JPC on Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:35 am

General question for Jonah or anyone else who is knowledgeable on the subject:

What would be the implications of ferritin at the low end of normal or below normal?

Thanks in advance. JPC

JPC
Name: JPC

Re: High ferritin - what does it mean?

by Jonah on Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:05 pm

Hi JPC,

I'm not an expert, and I'll probably end up telling you what you already know. In any case, as I understand it, low ferritin levels generally will lead to low hemoglobin levels, with all the usual problems that you would expect when that happens. Also, low ferritin levels can affect thyroid function.

The low ferritin may be a result of insufficient iron in the diet, poor absorption of dietary iron by the body, or chronic bleeding.

Hope this helps a bit.

Jonah

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