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Plug for Palliative Care

by Tracy J on Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:05 am

This is such an important question. It is also highly personalized, depending on so many individual factors: age, values, family, stage of disease, pain level, support systems, treatment options and their side effects, etc. There are so many factors, it's impossible to make any blanket statements. Each patient needs to figure it out for themselves.

THIS is precisely the sort of thing that palliative care does. In fact, it's pretty close to their mission. Palliative care is a medical specialty, just like pediatrics or oncology, with regular MD and DO doctors. They have their own advanced level training, just like any specialty. They help the patient and the family understand all the medical stuff and the IMPLICATIONS. Then they help the patient apply their particular situation and value system to the path ahead, with focus on the decision points. They also help manage symptoms, maybe symptoms that fall by the wayside in regular oncology appointments but are nevertheless so important to quality of life- anxiety, insomnia, etc.

I think people shy away from asking for this kind of consultation because they don't know about it, or they think they need to be actively dying to get it, or that having palliative care help implies something about your time left. Untrue. Palliative care is not the same thing as hospice (although obviously palliative care consult is helpful for a hospice patient). You do NOT need to be actively dying for palliative care. You only need a chronic, life-changing illness. Do you think myeloma qualifies as a life-changing illness? :)

I think palliative care addresses many of the gaps we have in delivery of medical care for chronically ill patients, and is the most underutilized specialty in medicine.

Tracy J
Name: Tracy Jalbuena
Who do you know with myeloma?: Me
When were you/they diagnosed?: 2014
Age at diagnosis: 42

Interesting article about happiness

by Tracy J on Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:27 am

I ran across this article right after reading this thread about quality of life.

The article summarizes a very large British study about happiness. The researchers found no causal link between happiness/ unhappiness and mortality. In other words, being happy doesn't make you live longer, and being unhappy doesn't make you die sooner - in their findings.

They find that clearly being ill tends to make people unhappy. :| There is an interesting side discussion about what constitutes "happiness" that I think gets to a lot of this thread.

And don't get stressed out when you have a blue or down day that you are shortening your life or encouraging your cancer by doing so. Just ride it out, and know that a better day is coming.

Worth a look.

Tracy J
Name: Tracy Jalbuena
Who do you know with myeloma?: Me
When were you/they diagnosed?: 2014
Age at diagnosis: 42

Re: Quality of life

by Ron Harvot on Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:32 am

It only seems somewhat obvious that younger patients, who have families with young children that depend on them, want a treatment that allows them to function, work and be active family members. So it seems only natural for them to desire a regimen that would enable them to function actively as much as possible without missing work or family involvement. (Unfortunately desire often is not reflected by reality.) On the other hand, it also seems natural that for those who have had myeloma for many years, who's children are raised, and who have had one or more relapses, to be willing to tolerate more treatment discomfort if they can extend life without becoming totally disabled.

What the young person has to ask himself or herself, are they willing to risk potentially a few months where they may be temporarily disabled for the chance of a longer period of being treatment free? In other words are they willing to risk short-term pain for long-term gain in QOL. Or are they willing to put up with some level of continuous discomfort/treatment in order to avoid a period of disability? Are they in a position emotionally or financially where they may not be able to be disabled for a few months? The question then is how much discomfort for them is too much?

Some patients can tolerate treatment regimes without any real bad side effects, others cannot. The problem is you don't really know where you fall on that scale until you actually start treatment. You also don't know if you can tolerate the more aggressive treatment without long period of disability or health risk.

Ron Harvot
Name: Ron Harvot
Who do you know with myeloma?: Myself
When were you/they diagnosed?: Feb 2009
Age at diagnosis: 56

Re: Quality of life

by MMFeb16,15 on Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:14 am

I am meeting three hematologists. One has several papers on multiple myeloma. First one I notice inclined for aggressive treatment . Second one will follow advice of first one. Third one explained to me option of aggressive ( asct) or Chemo treatment. Non aggressive treatment through oral chemo was if I want better quality life as long as I live. I have my stem cell collected for freezing for emergency. I am not inclined to go for ASCT.

Once in remission or plateau, my decision is to go for maintenance chemo. Newer medicines are being developed and approved. I prefer this route for better life till I live.

ASCT has two percent death in procedure, high chemo maintenance after transplant, and more severe side effects. Life expectancy or clean multiple myeloma life is not much different with average being three years.

Am I correct in my understanding of the situation?

MMFeb16,15
Who do you know with myeloma?: Self
When were you/they diagnosed?: February 16, 2015
Age at diagnosis: 66

Re: Quality of life

by Mark11 on Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:33 pm

Hi MMFeb16,

Sorry to hear you have joined the club. No I do not think what you wrote is accurate with regard to all patients. For transplant eligible patients I think this entire paragraph is not accurate.

"ASCT has two percent death in procedure, high chemo maintenance after transplant, and more severe side effects. Life expectancy or clean multiple myeloma life is not much different with average being three years.

Studies have consistently shown an overall survival benefit for patients that do autos (upfront or at relapse) compared to those that do not. There are some patients that do autos and have long term drug free remissions. If they choose the maintenance route, the maintenance is usually the same as patients that do not do autos. What makes you think patients that do autos need/do heavy maintenance chemo compared to those that do not?

Autos generally reduce quality of life in the SHORT TERM, not the long run. I did an allo transplant 4 and a half years ago and it has made my quality of life better. Back when I did it, there was a high percentage chance I would relapse. Now that chance is VERY low due to my great response. As you could imagine, not worrying about having relapsed myeloma has greatly improved my mental quality of life.

For transplant eligible patients, overall survival is thought to be in the 7-10 year range now. I have not heard 3 years for transplant eligible patients for a while.

Here is a paper from 2009 that discusses various QOL studies on transplant patients. Note that for most myeloma patients their quality of life is the same or better 3 months to a year after an auto than it was at baseline. Baseline is right before they did the procedure. Note 88% of them rated their quality of life as "good to excellent" one year after the auto. Back than maintenance was not common.

All of this has to be put in the context of the first study I posted. Myeloma patients have a poor quality of life compared to other blood cancer patients. Comparing myeloma patients to the general population is really not going to look favorable.

"Autologous HCT
In the setting of autologous HCT, initial impairments in overall QOL are noted at baseline compared to reference population data, probably reflecting the effects of prior therapy and anticipation of the arduous therapy involved in autologous HCT. Not surprisingly, longitudinal studies demonstrate an initial worsening in overall QOL following transplant, with nadir reached at 10-14 days after HCT. Beyond this, there is rapid progressive improvement, with return to baseline reported by 3 months to 1 year. By one year after autologous HCT, the proportion of survivors below the 10th percentile of a healthy normative population in overall QOL decreased from 43% to 20%. In addition, 88% of survivors after autologous HCT at 1 year endorsed their overall QOL as ‘above average to excellent’. However, there does appear to be a more persistent decrement in overall QOL after autologous HCT in comparison to normative population data at 36 months. Thus, it appears that deficits in overall QOL associated with autologous transplant are transient. Longer-term deficits in overall QOL observed in patients relative to individuals without cancer may reflect the cumulative burden of relapsed disease and multiple treatments rather than specific effects of autologous transplant per se."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2810350/

I really want to keep this thread on quality of life. There are plenty of other threads to discuss overall survival for auto upfront, delayed, or none. I am doing this for the benefit of newly diagnosed patients to show there are peer reviewed studies discussing quality of life. I am really hoping we can keep this thread going with great posts like Ron H. TracyJ and NancyS made.

I am glad MMFeb16 wrote that so I could show what the studies show with regard to QOL for auto patients since that is an important decision. I am too busy now, but at some point I want to show two studies with 5 year plus follow up for long term CML (chronic myelogenous leukemia) survivors comparing quality of life between those on Gleevec (Imatinib) and allogeneic transplant. In my opinion it is an interesting comparison since Gleevec is the "gold standard" of "targeted therapy" to make blood cancer chronic while upfront allo transplant is the aggressive curative therapy for blood cancer. You will see it way too simplistic to think that aggressive therapy leads to reduced QOL when compared to patients treating it as a chronic disease taking a pill.

Mark

Mark11

Re: Quality of life

by Ellen Harris on Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:14 pm

Interesting thread.

QOL is a difficult topic. There are so many variables in each of our individual cases to consider, and experientially, we are all so different, as well.

I am 14 months past ASCT. There are days when I feel "nearly" normal. ( As long as I don't think about it.) Then there are days where I have have fatigue and GI issues, (yes, still.) But it is hard to distinguish cause and effect. I am 60 and I had some GI problems before. I am also on a maintenance protocol of Velcade bi-weekly with 12 mgs of dex, which doesn't sound like much, but there are side effects, especially cumulatively. I was on 5 mgs of Revlimid in addition, for maintenance, and I developed some type of weird muscle pain, which my oncologist was not sure was related to the Revlimid. My CPK was elevated, and I was experiencing lots of diffuse muscle pain and cramping. So, we decided to eliminate the Revlimid for now.

I work 3-4 days per week. I try to exercise most days. I cook dinner almost every night for a family of four. I do housework. I socialize and try to keep active mentally. I don't sleep particularly well, for any number of reasons.

Compared to many, many, myeloma patients, I would say I am doing farily well. I feel lucky some days, and others, not. I live in New York City, so I have access to some of the best doctors in the world, and I have seen a few. I am happy with my current medical team.

Not sure if I answered any questions, but I thought I would weigh in.

Best of luck!
So, it is a mixed bag.

Ellen Harris

Re: Quality of life

by MMFeb16,15 on Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:19 pm

Dear Mark11:
Opinion expressed by me is my hematologists. I just made the decision based on information provided by them. Those information including two percent death during process and on an average three years clean life after transplant is coming from one of the best center on multiple myeloma in the USA.
I have not done much self research on this subject. However, I will look in to it more carefully, including your postings.
In the meantime I am not inclined to go for ASCT.
Thank you Mark 11

MMFeb16,15
Who do you know with myeloma?: Self
When were you/they diagnosed?: February 16, 2015
Age at diagnosis: 66

Re: Quality of life

by Mike F on Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:52 pm

MMFeb16 -

There are certainly myelome experts who are now going with the idea of not doing the upfront ASCT and they have good reasons for that. I am very surprised that your hematologist is telling you that there's a 2% mortality rate on auto transplants. Back when I did mine in 2013, I was told by a couple of transplant experts that the number was more like 1% and less than that at centers with a lot of expertise in the procedure. While there are issues to worry about with an auto transplant (as with any complex medical procedure), the thought of not surviving it never entered my mind.

Are you in the U.S?

Mike F
Name: Mike F
Who do you know with myeloma?: Me
When were you/they diagnosed?: May 18, 2012
Age at diagnosis: 53

Re: Quality of life

by Cheryl G on Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:06 pm

In the IFM / DFCI trial I posted about previously in the forum, mortality was 1.4% during the harvest and transplantation phase in the group of patients who underwent early transplantation:

https://myelomabeacon.org/forum/results-stem-cell-transplant-clinical-trial-t6281.html

"5 toxic deaths occurred during mobilization or in the actual transplant phase (1.4%)"

Note that, due to the design of the trial, these were "younger" myeloma patients -- i.e., patients who were no older than 65 at the time of diagnosis. Here is the clinicaltrials.gov description of the trial:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01191060

Also, this trial is being conducted at leading myeloma treatment centers in France and in the U.S., and it is using an induction regimen similar to what many U.S. myeloma patients get -- Revlimid, Velcade, and dex.

Cheryl G

Re: Quality of life

by Mark11 on Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:06 pm

I just wanted to post the studies referenced in the previous post. As I mentioned in my last post, they are CML studies. Obviously few myeloma patients are going to do an allogeneic transplant before relapse and unfortunately there is no therapy/therapies as successful at treating myeloma as Gleevec (imatinib) is treating CML. I also want to show these studies to look at what long term quality of life is like between a single, targeted therapy that is delivered in a pill continuously as opposed to a non-specific immunotherapy often combined with high doses of chemotherapy that only has to be done once.

A lot of our threads tend to get into one therapy against another. I really want to avoid that here. Posts like Ellen's are really what I am looking for. These are not therapies most myeloma patients will use, so hopefully you can just look at them for the information they provide. These come from patient reports of their quality of life, which I put more stock in than what a doctor thinks the quality of life of patients are. Fortunately for CML patients, they can have a great outcome no matter which therapy they happen to use.

For those not familiar with CML and Gleevec, approximately 80% of CML patients (depending on the study) can start taking Gleevec only and stay in remission for 10 years plus. Gleevec truly makes CML a chronic disease for some CML patients. I think a good way to look at this is what would life with myeloma be like if we had much more successful consolidation and/or maintenance therapies. If you think about it, many of the tradeoffs we make in myeloma are "am I willing to accept side effects of a therapy to stay in remission longer". If you use maintenance drugs or do an upfront auto in myeloma, it will likely increase your progression free survival at the cost of side effects from the therapy. Gleevec or the donor immune system are much more successful at keeping CML patients in remission than any therapy/therapies in myeloma are. Also note few CML patients now do early allogeneic transplants due to the success of Gleevec. I do think these studies show some interesting information on long term quality of life.

These two studies are both from China. The reason I mention it is that the second study refers to increased financial toxicity in the Gleevec group. That may not be applicable to patients in different countries, so I would not put much emphasis on that point, although I am sure that some patients do experience problems with regard to paying for Gleevec in different countries.

"To evaluate and compare the health-related quality of life (HRQOL) of patients with newly diagnosed CML in the first chronic phase (CML-CP1) receiving HLA-identical sibling donor (ISD) hematopoietic SCT (HSCT) or imatinib, a cross-sectional study that was part of a prospective cohort study at the Institute of Hematology, Peking University was performed. A total of 222 patients including 126 and 96 in the imatinib and ISD HSCT groups, respectively, were enrolled. HRQOL was measured using the Medical Outcomes Study 36-Item Short-Form Health Survey. The ISD HSCT group functioned significantly better on the role-physical functioning and mental health subscales, as well as the mental component summary (MCS) than the imatinib group. HRQOL was generally comparable to groups in the young population. Multivariate analysis showed that white blood cell countgreater than or equal to30 × 109/L and plts count greater than or equal to450 × 109/L were the major adverse factors affecting HRQOL in long-term survivors. Imatinib therapy was also an adverse factor affecting the MCS (odds ratio=1.7, P=0.032). Thus, long-term CML-CP1 survivors receiving ISD HSCT can attain desirable HRQOL comparable to or better than that of patients receiving imatinib."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24442252


"Abstract To evaluate and compare the long-term medical outcome and health-related quality of life (HRQOL) of patients with CML in chronic phase (CML-CP) who received imatinib or an allogeneic hematopoietic stem cell transplant (allo-HSCT) using retrospective analysis and an embedded cross-sectional study. CML-CP patients who received imatinib or transplantation from January 4, 2004 to October 10, 2011 in the Department of Hematology at Guangdong General Hospital (GGH) were enrolled in this study. A total of 131 patients, including 90 and 41 in the imatinib and allo-HSCT groups, respectively, were enrolled. The two groups including HRQOL investigation were well matched for gender, marital status, employment status, educational background, and Sokal score at diagnosis. There were no significant differences in the five-year EFS, PFS and OS between the two groups. The HRQOL was measured using EORTC QLQ-C30. Those questions include five multi-item function scales (Physical, Role, Emotional, Cognitive and Social Functioning), a combined Global Health Status/QOL scale, and a number of individual items (appetite loss, dyspnea, diarrhea, constipation, sleep disturbances, and financial impact). In terms of HRQOL, with the exception of social functioning (64.9 vs. 77.5, P=0.035), there was no significant difference in many of the HRQOL scores between the imatinib and transplant groups: global HRQOL, role function, physical function, emotional function and cognitive function. However, symptoms including nausea/vomiting (14.8 vs. 3.2, P=0.013), diarrhea (18.4 vs. 2.5, P=0.001), and financial difficulty (56.9 vs. 33.3, P=0.023) more negatively impacted the imatinib group (P<0.05). Persistent cGVHD reduced the HRQOL of the allo-HSCT group, compared with the non-cGVHD and historic cGVHD group. Although imatinib and transplantation have similar long-term medical outcomes, allo-HSCT provides better social function, moderate symptoms, and lower financial burden."

https://ash.confex.com/ash/2015/webprogram/Paper84532.html

Mark11

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