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Conference today in LA (and political correctness)

by dianaiad on Sun May 18, 2014 12:12 am

I went to the MMRF patient education conference today in Los Angeles. It was held at the International Hotel on the Avenue of the Stars. I did feel very much the redneck there. I've never been in a hotel that actually DID supply robes in the rooms!

The conference was, of course, wonderful. The presenters were clear (mostly) and I got some information made clear to me that I've been struggling with a bit over the last year. Some confusion was cleared up, and I learned about some exciting new things

I also got the general consensus about the miracle measles vaccine. Let's just say that the presenters, all highly qualified and active multiple myeloma specialists, were not as enthusiastic about it as one would hope. ;)

Other than the fancy hotel (and their food lived up to the hype, certainly!) I had another 'first.' I finally met someone else who had multiple myeloma, personally. I've been exchanging posts with you guys, and have done research, but until today I'd never actually met anyone other than me who actually had this thing.

Now for the politically incorrect (or correct, you figure it out) aspect of this whole thing. I understand that, according to the statistics, more men than women have this disease, and men of African descent are more likely to have it than Caucasians. Given this, I really expected to see a far more ... uhmn ... inclusive ... audience there than actually showed up.

There were about as many men as I expected (couples, actually), and with most of the couples, the men were the patients and the women the caregivers. This wasn't universal, of course, and I certainly didn't take a poll or go around asking, but from what little I did glean, that seemed to be true.

What I did NOT see was representation from the black community. I noticed this lack and then actually counted. There were, perhaps, five African Americans at the conference, and one of them was one of the presenters from Canada, Joseph Mikhael. There were around 200 attendees at the conference, and it was free. Where were the folks who, according to the statistics, this disease hits the hardest?

...and don't look at me. My kids may be able to check the 'African American' square on the surveys if they want to, but I can't. Is there a lack of outreach? A lack of interest? A different cultural approach? Why weren't there more black men at that conference? According to 'Blood'," black men are twice as likely to get this as white men, so simple dumb math (and I'm only capable of 'simple dumb math) tells me that only having three or four black patients in conference such as this one is not a representation of the population of myeloma patients.

To put it mildly.

One of the presenters (and some of you are his patients, I think, so I'll leave out the name) really hit my "curmudgeon English teacher annoyed" button. He mentioned, in his description of some of the exciting new treatments coming through the trial process, that they may well be effective when 'the patient fails the medication" (insert name of agent in the place of 'medication').

Is that really proper medical jargon? Because if it is, I strenuously object. He said that over fifteen times, and I cringed each and every time he said it.

Look, I'm a teacher. when a student 'fails' something, it's HIS fault. He didn't study enough, he didn't do the homework, he wasn't paying attention ... something. I have never seen a student who did all his homework, who turned in his papers on time (no matter how badly written), read his assignments and paid attention in class, fail. He might get a D or a low C, but not an "F".

But every time Dr. B said 'when the patient fails the *insert agent here*," he was telling us that there is something wrong with the patient ... characterwise, as if it would have worked had the patient just taken the pills properly, or had the right attitude, or thought the wrong thoughts at the wrong time; something. The PATIENT failed.

When in reality, the patient isn't failing, the medication is. He could have put that in a number of different ways: "When the medication stopped working," for instance, or "when the medication stopped being as effective," or "when the medication failed the patient."

But NOT, for the love of heaven, 'the patient failed the medication!"

The information this doctor gave was invaluable, timely and sometimes exciting ... but I'm high risk, and will probably relapse sooner than standard risk folks, and when I do, gol durn it, it won't be because I did something wrong and 'failed' the medication, or the trial, or the experiment.

What a way to put the blame on the patient, for crying out loud!

-- OK, rant over, and I don't know what irritates me more; the fact that so few African Americans were there today, or this idea that it's the patient's fault that the medicine doesn't work --

Wait, I know what it is; it's because those two things niggled at an absolutely marvelous and information filled day.

dianaiad
Who do you know with myeloma?: Me
When were you/they diagnosed?: Officially...March 2013
Age at diagnosis: 63

Re: Conference today in LA (and political correctness)

by Ian on Sun May 18, 2014 5:19 am

Diana - Could you perhaps post a summary of the feedback you heard about the new virus therapy for myeloma over in the forum discussion about it,

https://myelomabeacon.org/forum/measles-virus-multiple-myeloma-t3287.html

I suspect I'm not the only person interested in hearing more details about what you heard.

I think you raise a good point about language when it comes to discussing the treatment of myeloma. Unfortunately, I don't think it is unusual to say that a patient "fails" a treatment when they stop responding to it. However, that doesn't mean that it's the sort of language that should be preferred.

Good point.

Ian

Re: Conference today in LA (and political correctness)

by Multibilly on Sun May 18, 2014 8:39 am

I'm always coming across grammar-usage in technical medical articles that also makes me cringe. I think it is simply a result of English meeting technology and scientific trial jargon. Do you truly believe that the doctors that were presenting actually thought that the "patient failed the drug"? I think they are simply using the jargon that is accepted in their professional circles to accurately convey their data to their colleagues.

In my high tech field, I know that there is a lot of grammar that I use that is simply not correct from a purely grammatical standpoint, but it is quite accurate and accepted within the circles I run.

Have you ever read your doctor's detailed diagnosis of your own multiple myeloma condition (most patients don't ask for these documents, but I find them to be extremely useful)? If your report is anything like mine, it will either make your laugh or cringe from a grammatical standpoint.

Multibilly
Name: Multibilly
Who do you know with myeloma?: Me
When were you/they diagnosed?: Smoldering, Nov, 2012

Re: Conference today in LA (and political correctness)

by Nancy Shamanna on Sun May 18, 2014 9:17 am

Hi Dianalad, I am glad to hear that you went to a patient education conference, heard good speakers and met other myeloma patients too! I have heard Dr. Mikhael speak on two occasions, once in Winnipeg and once in Calgary. I think he is wonderful! He is at Scottsdale Mayo Clinic, AZ.

One of the pluses for me of my whole journey to date has been meeting other myeloma patients and their caregivers too! And the whole 'online' experience has also been very helpful to me.

When a myeloma doc says 'failed', I cringe too, but maybe for other reasons than grammar. Some patients do not respond to one treatment after the next since their disease is so refractory, or aggressive. It IS these sorts of patients who get onto the clinical trials for new drugs or treatments, as an attempt to halt their disease progression. Take care, All the best, Nancy

Nancy Shamanna
Name: Nancy Shamanna
Who do you know with myeloma?: Self and others too
When were you/they diagnosed?: July 2009

Re: Conference today in LA (and political correctness)

by dianaiad on Sun May 18, 2014 1:07 pm

I understand about technical jargon: I have written several technical manuals. I suspect that this, "the patient failed" is a traditional way of putting it.

... and I honestly can't figure myself out here: I mean, really! I'm a libertarian, for crying out loud, leaning far right, and a fierce proponent of freedom of speech. There are few people out there less worried about politically correct speech, like those who are worried about offending native Americans by allowing a bunch of first graders to do "YMCA" dressed like the Village People. (Yes, someone recently yanked a school skit for precisely that reason).

But here's the problem for me. That bit of 'jargon,' has it's roots in an attitude that bugs me, and isn't at all dependent upon necessary technical wording. In fact, saying that the 'patient failed' is technically inaccurate. Perhaps the patient did not respond to the medication, but the fact is, it's the medication that failed to alter the condition, the patient didn't fail. I guess that's what got to me.

It's a signal to a meme; the responsibility is all on the patient. If a treatment doesn't work, it's because the patient was non-compliant in some manner. That is, historically, a fairly standard attitude in the medical profession. I actually can't blame folks for this; sometimes one has to distance oneself from responsibility in order to stay sane, especially when lives are, quite literally, at stake. I understand, but I also think that blaming the patient, even in so seemingly minor a thing as this, isn't an appropriate way to do that.

I know I've been at this for a year and a half now, approximately, but in many ways I'm still very new at this; until yesterday I'd never met anybody else with multiple myeloma, had only spoken at any length to two multiple myeloma docs ... and one of those, though I have come to like him personally, is not an multiple myeloma specialist. He's also not exactly forthcoming.

So I have never been exposed to this bit of technical jargon. It came as a surprise, especially when it was repeated so very often in so short a time.

Ah, well ...

All the good stuff that came from this conference so overwhelmed this stupid thing that I shouldn't be obsessed with it. I can't help but wonder why I am?

dianaiad
Who do you know with myeloma?: Me
When were you/they diagnosed?: Officially...March 2013
Age at diagnosis: 63


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