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The dark side of curcumin?

by Multibilly on Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:50 pm

I've been researching using 8g of curcumin as a means to keep my smoldering myeloma just "smoldering" and nothing more. My hematologist and his pharmaceutical and nutritional staff are also investigating it for me per my request. However, I came across this article which now has me wondering just how safe high-dose curcumin really is in the long run.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ijc.24967/pdf

You may have also heard about the ongoing investigation by MD Anderson into one of their researchers involved in their earlier curcumin study (see below). Be clear, that nothing is settled here and everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but the above two items do raise concerns in my mind regarding going down a path of using high dose curcumin.

http://retractionwatch.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/md-anderson-investigating-researcher-bharat-aggarwal-over-images/

Multibilly
Name: Multibilly
Who do you know with myeloma?: Me
When were you/they diagnosed?: Smoldering, Nov, 2012

Re: The dark side of curcumin?

by Multibilly on Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:08 pm

Fresh off the press from China. Synthetic curcumin.

http://file.scirp.org/pdf/JCT_2013020711192822.pdf

Multibilly
Name: Multibilly
Who do you know with myeloma?: Me
When were you/they diagnosed?: Smoldering, Nov, 2012

Re: The dark side of curcumin?

by Geremia on Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:47 pm

Curcumin has a very low toxicity:

From this book by Dr. Murray, N.D. (naturopathic doctor): http://books.google.com/books?id=UmkOD1YIqXYC&pg=PA173 :

"Is curcumin safe?
"Curcumin has an excellent safety profile. In fact, no lethal dose has been reached in animal studies.²⁰ Curcumin at a dosage of 2.5 g/kg fet to mice, rats, guinea pigs, and monkeys produced no mortality or genetic mutations in offspring."

Geremia
Who do you know with myeloma?: mother
When were you/they diagnosed?: 1/30/2014
Age at diagnosis: 60

Re: The dark side of curcumin?

by dnalex on Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:01 pm

Thank you for the info, multibilly, as usual.

My mom remains at only 1gram of curcumin daily. I have been meaning to increase it, but at the same time, have not found a reason to do so, even though we know that most people eventually ramp it up to 4 grams or more.

dnalex
Name: Alex N.
Who do you know with myeloma?: mother
When were you/they diagnosed?: 2007
Age at diagnosis: 56

Re: The dark side of curcumin?

by kc27 on Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:16 am

Maybe you should look into liposomal. It is a vastly superior delivery system. Mgs work like grams. Absolute best value for your dollar. Read the reviews and studies of the lipo vs piperine curcumin. Absolutely eliminated my neuropathy pain for the last 3 years, waaaay better than any of the pills I tried, and if works that much better for inflammation.

kc27

Re: The dark side of curcumin?

by Multibilly on Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:43 am

KC, if you don't mind me asking, what brand liposomal curcumin do you use and what sort of dose do you take daily?

When searching on "liposomal curcumin", I came across these research articles.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19528445

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3206621/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3259195/

Multibilly
Name: Multibilly
Who do you know with myeloma?: Me
When were you/they diagnosed?: Smoldering, Nov, 2012


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